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I am mico os/Aeon user for a year now, so far very good experience since my switch from Fedora Workstation. Look great with the new installer for simple installation, but I missing more advanced options like encrypted partition with luks2, and dual boot support with Windows, and in geneal custom partition tools for more advanced user case. If laptop only have 1 ssd slots, and linux need to take over the whole disk, then there is an issue with dual boot windows, and I don't want to carry 2 laptop between home and work. Currently I am use single ssd dual boot Aeon and Windows 11, using grub for boot, with BitLock enable for Windows and luks2 enable for Aeon. My usage is 90% aeon and 10% windows, mostly for work, unencrypted disk is (viewed) as unacceptable by IT department for good reason(Suprise.. LOL). I hope the new new installer add advanced partition options at some point for power user and developer down the road.

Awesome! Now I only need to get a 1TB USB Drive :D Maybe my old external HDD is still functional.

Thanks for making this video! I am glad I don't have to choose between a full re-do and rolling with the old system after getting a little ahead of myself in testing this out.

Really nice. Is there any chance that the installer will offer the choice to backup to a bigger drive that may be connected to the system? My /home can get BIG :)

This is great, I can't wait to deploy this. Could you please make a video showing more about the "Ignition" functionalities?

Well looks nice but isn't it possible to just use current /home and not copy it?

Richard, this looks excellent. I'm loving the current Aeon. Can't wait for this.

So excited

I love it. Thank you so much for what you do for the whole opensuse community 🙏

Sure the kids got chromebooks, but you know...they are chromebooks.

You might be a bit biased about "the best desktop". Is openSUSE Aeon an official openSUSE distro? Who are the developers? How are system-specific changes supposed to be handled? Who, ultimately, owns the system if I have absolutely no control over the system? Since the (hidden) developers make the changes whenever they want, not when I want, they effectively control my system, or my company's system, correct? If these are push updates instead of pull updates, how secure is this model? Right now, this is a non-Zero Trust-based system. For example, would you, Mr. Brown, be willing to enter into a BAA with my company to ensure that HIPAA-covered ePHI is secure. Microsoft will do so, if you use Enterprise (I spoke with their legal team). SUSE is able to offer the BAA, as I've used the SLED offering for company desktops in the past. In a Zero-Trust model, I would know the entire digital ecosystem, from start to implementation. I would know what's installed, what will be upgraded and why and the specifics of how that impacts critical infrastructure. I've read the single page on Aeon on openSUSE and it was lacking a LOT of detail. I've managed server farms and can tell you that with AIX I was in complete control of everything on that server. I kept digital and written logs, knew precisely the libraries, software and system files installed and could produce them if there was an audit, which there was. I can tell you that being audited by the FBI and the US federal government for financials is intimidating and not at all a joke. Since I have absolutely NO CONTROL over openSUSE Aeon, I have to trust that you and your developers are altruistic and professional. @~!16:45 you present a model about the design, but it is incomplete. For example, how are kernel changes handled (modprobe)? How are systemd modifications, additions or removals handled (e.g., I don't want to use journald but rsyslog instead, due to binary log files)? Isn't this type of update schedule like Windows 10/11? I have absolutely NO CONTROL OVER THE REBOOT!?! Daily reboots actually make Microsoft Windows look tame by comparison.

Will the other desktop environments eventually be available on Aeon?

I have been running Tumbleweed as my primary OS for years now, before that it was openSuSE, think since 7.x version. Currently running on my latest HP EliteBook 7840U/32GB/5G with 2TB Samsung 990 Pro SSD, and everything runs out of box, including 5G/ambient light/camera + IR, fingerprint, etc. Gonna try MicroOS using VBox for now, seems interesting, to get the feel. I am curious, as in as for a simple desktop OS, isn't flatpak based system will be bulkier, slower, etc, compared to Tumbleweed. As I see MicroOS will be much more secure as everything runs within it's own sandbox, which is cool. Ah yes, and I am KDE person, GNOME is too simple. Looking forward to Aeon. :)

Appreciate this project and your presentation!

Thank you for your great work on MicroOS Desktop/Aeon. I'm running the Gnome RC for a couple of weeks now without any problems. Will the RC seamlessly upgrade to stable or will a reinstall be necessary?

I have the impression that there is not a lot of interest in the opensuse community for an alp derivative? There's no chance I guess that Suse ALP will be freely available to the community like opensuse leap is today? (Meaning: going straight to the source for alp without paying an arm and a leg like for SLES now?)

Switched from Tumbleweed a couple days ago. It was weird at first, but Aeon makes other distros feel like they're held together with duct tape.

Using Debian 12 and Archlinux. Testing NixOS, this OpenSuse Aeon could be an interesting approach, i'll try it

Always enjoy your talks, Richard. I just installed Aeon over the weekend and it's been awesome. Im just a casual laptop user who wants something to work whenever i need to do some web browsing, emails, or watch movies. Everything has been working great and it's super fast and simple. Best part, i dont have to worry about running updates :)

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I installed it, and for now work much faster than Endless os that i use before. Maybe newer Kernel improves performance?

I'm running debian12 on my dell xps 13 plus laptop, vanilla os on an hp envy desktop.

I’m excited to have a go. I use tumbleweed and couldn’t be happier. I’d prefer KDE but Gnome is pretty good these days

it may not be practical for many, but are there relatively easy ways to have microOS isos made custom with, for examples packages i prefer on the host + nvidia drivers preinstalled? is there any relatively easy to understand document for that? would be really cool. im currently on a fedora silverblue base, but im heavily interested in microOS too, after some mistakes from IBM/RedHat

This was very interesting. I'm relatively new to Linux (use it now for about 6 months) and the MicroOs Desktop sounds great. Too bad that KDE isn't ready (if it ever will). Will keep an eye on it 🙂

It is pleasant hearing you speak in a more humble manner. Been packaging a lot of KDE packages for Flathub lately, so I can probably make my return to openSUSE, but it is still a lot of work until everything works like before.

Great discussion, finally somebody talking in great detail about what direction cross-distros packages need to go, about to try Aeon on my laptop.

Any desktop presumes and assumes a video-output. opensuse micro os installation failed during install after video stopped (gee, no error msg on dark screen!)

Switching OS my bedroom recycled PC. I have been using Pop OS and always found it bloated for my needs. Base OS with Firefox account synced with all my extensions, plugins and Media website logins is all I need for bedroom entertainment. This video answered all my questions about MicroOS and gave me the confidence to install it. It's running premium and I'll run it for a couple of months before deciding if I should upgrade my living room rig. Thanks kindly

I'm a Debian user for 20+ years... or I was. I've tried Tumbleweed some years ago because I wanted a reliable rolling update distribution, preferably supporting BTRFS. Tumbleweed was /the/ obvious choice. I didn't know at that time that I would not look back for Debian once again. Almost. In reality, I have one particular workflow which is tied to Ubuntu, which I need sometimes, which raises the need of running two distributions alongside each other, or simply using two distinct laptops. I've opted for having two distinct laptops in order to avoid trashing my base system. OpenSUSE Aeon is the perfect solution for this trouble and I'm excited to try it and, I hope, I will never look back for Tumbleweed once again. I'm just waiting for KDE to be supported since I cannot live without it.

A bit of a side queation can i use distrobox to create a ubuntu or fedora or whatever and then install and run mysql through the container

In my opionion the best thing as an end user about the Tumbleweed / Leap situation was always that tinkering with and learning the ins and outs of my desktop system (Tumbleweed) translated well to server stuff (Leap). In that way I'll be a happy camper with openSUSE Tumbleweed and openSUSE Granite personally. Considering the different needs of desktop users compared to servers I would think most users would be well served between openSUSE Tumbleweed and openSUSE Aeon that I don't know how much a separate NewLeap desktop system would really be needed. Maybe the best solution would be an EPEL style repo to extend openSUSE Granite?

Capability is a function of capacity and ability. Whilst it is nice to offer everything, IMO, the writing is on the wall for Leap to be able to be maintained and should probably be descoped, at least until Granite comes out of which it is then is reevaluated whether the offering can be maintained.

Hi Richard, met you at the SuseCon today. Going to switch to Aeon (Micro). Same here, just want to do my stuff without the hassle. That's also why I love gnome. Thanks you. I also found myself always downloading a gnome desktop, and always removing ev every app that was on it to keep it as clean as possible. Means I was actually needing Micro right? Also dont mind the snap, flat stuff. Actually something quite handy.

I'm a Microsoft Architect by trade, and can I just say that the concepts in immutability in the Desktop space that you've been pushing are frankly awesome.

So excited. Using MicroOS (not Desktop) for an IoT device. Just mind blowing. Having started my Linux journey with S.u.S.E. Linux 5.1 in 1998, later switching to Debian, I may return to SUSE as my go to OS soon! Thank you so much for your hard work!

Very interesting stuff thanks. I really wish developers will be more disciplined to use standard runtimes to avoid the inflation in size of flatpack apps. Sharing runtimes should be the norm. I do not want my calculator to take 600Mb SSD space.

Hey Richard, great presentation, thanks for that. If I may, I would suggest if you could limit the clapping of your hands in the future to improve your presentation skills. The mic has picked it up a lot and it was very distracting.

Thanks for putting this together. Is there an easy place to find the slides by any chance? Thanks

Wish you a swift recovery. Thanks for sharing your presentation.

Is there a way to get our hands on the presentation? Is it possible to download it somewhere? Many thanks in advance

Thank you very much for your incredible work, Richard! But I will keep using Tumbleweed with KDE Plasma until Aeon is fully ready for KDE Plasma.

I declare guilty in calling the MicroOS Desktop as just MicroOS too. I am sorry 😅

Great, thanks for this! Wanted to ask if it's possible to change the default kernel, maybe using transactional-update shell, to a custom one that can be found in OBS

Very nice presentation. Mpv does have a flatpak but yt-dlp does not, is the only distrobox container I use...

Thanks for this!

Hi, we've deployed Bitwig Studio to flathub. Overall it works well but we had a few difficulties: - flatpak isn't pleasing the community yet for application plugins, see for example VST(s) - when distributing closed source app, you'd ideally have to build your app withing a flatpak "env" but the workflow, isn't there yet if your application has a very complicated build system - hard to build apps which requires extra download during build time, for example if you're using vcpkg I think flatpak is doing a good job for most application, but I still see a lot of things to be improved.